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Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2013.02.18 17:33:00 - [1] - Quote The range is a bit ridiculous. Damage over the range should be reduced, or the spread increased. Militia shotgun is too good to be free also. People complain about the HMG range being too much, but with the spread it has it basically shoots spitballs at range...not shotguns. Both are suppose to be CQC weapons, yet all the tears are directed mainly at the HMG...smh.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2013.02.18 17:48:00 - [2] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: The range is a bit ridiculous. Damage over the range should be reduced, or the spread increased. Militia shotgun is too good to be free also. Militia and Level 1-2 could both use an increase in spread, everything else better be left intact. It's not free, unless you buy the BPO. let's face it, militia infantry gear is so dirt cheap it may as well be free.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2013.02.18 17:53:00 - [3] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: let's face it, militia infantry gear is so dirt cheap it may as well be free. I was under the impression that that was it's intended purpose the point people are making is it's too cheap to be THAT effective...
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2013.02.18 18:29:00 - [4] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Oh yeah, let's go ahead and nerf the <20 meter range so that when we get on those 1km long maps those shotguns will be more balanced. FFS, it's a SHOTGUN - it's a High Damage, Low Range weapon. Just because this is the first time you've ever seem them truly utilized in an FPS (Call of Duty discouraging their use as SMGs could go into ADS faster) doesn't mean they're over-powered. You ever fired a REAL shotgun? They have a LOT more range than these things. Funny you bring real life into it... Ever fire a minigun in real life? It has zero spool time, deadly accurate, no spread. You people are a bunch of hypocrites. Like seriously. "OH NO! DON'T NERF THE SHOTGUN!" then on the other hand "NERF THE HMG!!!" You realize both guns serve the SAME PURPOSE in DUST? Both are CQC. As an HMG user I can admit to a slight range nerf, and a heat build up nerf, but you shotgun users can never admit to a nerf. Don't worry, when the HMG gets nerfed, the next OP bandwagon gonna be the shotgun.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2013.02.18 18:38:00 - [5] - Quote Morathi III wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Oh yeah, let's go ahead and nerf the <20 meter range so that when we get on those 1km long maps those shotguns will be more balanced. FFS, it's a SHOTGUN - it's a High Damage, Low Range weapon. Just because this is the first time you've ever seem them truly utilized in an FPS (Call of Duty discouraging their use as SMGs could go into ADS faster) doesn't mean they're over-powered. You ever fired a REAL shotgun? They have a LOT more range than these things. Funny you bring real life into it... Ever fire a minigun in real life? It has zero spool time, deadly accurate, no spread. You people are a bunch of hypocrites. Like seriously. "OH NO! DON'T NERF THE SHOTGUN!" then on the other hand "NERF THE HMG!!!" You realize both guns serve the SAME PURPOSE in DUST? Both are CQC. As an HMG user I can admit to a slight range nerf, and a heat build up nerf, but you shotgun users can never admit to a nerf. Don't worry, when the HMG gets nerfed, the next OP bandwagon gonna be the shotgun. HMG is fine I'm sure you've never used one, otherwise you'll KNOW they're not "fine". Ideally I can also say they're fine cuz I use them, but I know their range is ridiculous when skilled into it, plus the heat build up. I've used shotguns before the last reset, and they are also ridiculous. People just don't want to admit their weapon of choice needs a tweak. If that's the case then STFU about other weapons needing a tweak. Yeah AR's have no recoil, HMG's have too much range, shotguns have too much dmg over range, sniper rifles are too easy for the dmg they do, LR's heat build up is a joke also. ^ They're ALL my opinions, but at least I've used every one of them to have a valid opinion. I can admit my weapon of choice needs a tweak, how many of you out there can admit that? Hypocrites.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2013.02.18 18:46:00 - [6] - Quote Morathi III wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Morathi III wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Oh yeah, let's go ahead and nerf the <20 meter range so that when we get on those 1km long maps those shotguns will be more balanced. FFS, it's a SHOTGUN - it's a High Damage, Low Range weapon. Just because this is the first time you've ever seem them truly utilized in an FPS (Call of Duty discouraging their use as SMGs could go into ADS faster) doesn't mean they're over-powered. You ever fired a REAL shotgun? They have a LOT more range than these things. Funny you bring real life into it... Ever fire a minigun in real life? It has zero spool time, deadly accurate, no spread. You people are a bunch of hypocrites. Like seriously. "OH NO! DON'T NERF THE SHOTGUN!" then on the other hand "NERF THE HMG!!!" You realize both guns serve the SAME PURPOSE in DUST? Both are CQC. As an HMG user I can admit to a slight range nerf, and a heat build up nerf, but you shotgun users can never admit to a nerf. Don't worry, when the HMG gets nerfed, the next OP bandwagon gonna be the shotgun. HMG is fine I'm sure you've never used one, otherwise you'll KNOW they're not "fine". Ideally I can also say they're fine cuz I use them, but I know their range is ridiculous when skilled into it, plus the heat build up. I've used shotguns before the last reset, and they are also ridiculous. People just don't want to admit their weapon of choice needs a tweak. If that's the case then STFU about other weapons needing a tweak. Yeah AR's have no recoil, HMG's have too much range, shotguns have too much dmg over range, sniper rifles are too easy for the dmg they do, LR's heat build up is a joke also. ^ They're ALL my opinions, but at least I've used every one of them to have a valid opinion. I can admit my weapon of choice needs a tweak, how many of you out there can admit that? Hypocrites. If anything is OP like you said.... Dont need to buff them ;) L2 read... who said anything about a buff? I realize having a conversation with you is useless because you're hellbent on defending everything in the game besides ARs. This community on the whole is hypocritical when it comes to weapon balance.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2013.02.18 19:05:00 - [7] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Oh yeah, let's go ahead and nerf the <20 meter range so that when we get on those 1km long maps those shotguns will be more balanced. FFS, it's a SHOTGUN - it's a High Damage, Low Range weapon. Just because this is the first time you've ever seem them truly utilized in an FPS (Call of Duty discouraging their use as SMGs could go into ADS faster) doesn't mean they're over-powered. You ever fired a REAL shotgun? They have a LOT more range than these things. Funny you bring real life into it... Ever fire a minigun in real life? It has zero spool time, deadly accurate, no spread. You people are a bunch of hypocrites. Like seriously. "OH NO! DON'T NERF THE SHOTGUN!" then on the other hand "NERF THE HMG!!!" You realize both guns serve the SAME PURPOSE in DUST? Both are CQC. As an HMG user I can admit to a slight range nerf, and a heat build up nerf, but you shotgun users can never admit to a nerf. Don't worry, when the HMG gets nerfed, the next OP bandwagon gonna be the shotgun. When the **** did I say anything about the HMG in this thread? I've frequently advocated that the HMG is just fine the way it is - quit trying to turn me into something that you just made up for whatever point it is you're trying to make. Like, seriously, does anyone else see the absolute stupidity of this guys post in correlation to being a RESPONSE of mine? you're brought real life into a VIDEO GAME....yet I'm the stupid one? LOOOOOL Good one. Balance > real life
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2013.02.18 19:20:00 - [8] - Quote Morathi III wrote: Personnaly lance we will see what is OP when the proto come, its tough to said now the game is curently too easy but right now that take 3 chest shot to kill an assault well equiped i think is fine if i shot deeper its because i have sharpshooter prof 2 people's problem is that they judge weapons from lolPublic games. How many people judge a weapon's performance against another corp? Everyone judges stuff from playing against noobs. If people did judge in a corp game, then I guarantee you nobody would be crying over HMGs and all the QQ threads would be cut in half.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2013.02.18 19:22:00 - [9] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Oh yeah, let's go ahead and nerf the <20 meter range so that when we get on those 1km long maps those shotguns will be more balanced. FFS, it's a SHOTGUN - it's a High Damage, Low Range weapon. Just because this is the first time you've ever seem them truly utilized in an FPS (Call of Duty discouraging their use as SMGs could go into ADS faster) doesn't mean they're over-powered. You ever fired a REAL shotgun? They have a LOT more range than these things. Funny you bring real life into it... Ever fire a minigun in real life? It has zero spool time, deadly accurate, no spread. You people are a bunch of hypocrites. Like seriously. "OH NO! DON'T NERF THE SHOTGUN!" then on the other hand "NERF THE HMG!!!" You realize both guns serve the SAME PURPOSE in DUST? Both are CQC. As an HMG user I can admit to a slight range nerf, and a heat build up nerf, but you shotgun users can never admit to a nerf. Don't worry, when the HMG gets nerfed, the next OP bandwagon gonna be the shotgun. When the ** did I say anything about the HMG in this thread? I've frequently advocated that the HMG is just fine the way it is - quit trying to turn me into something that you just made up for whatever point it is you're trying to make. Like, seriously, does anyone else see the absolute stupidity of this guys post in correlation to being a RESPONSE of mine? you're brought real life into a VIDEO GAME....yet I'm the stupid one? LOOOOOL Good one. Balance > real life So you're high? I mean, come on - have YOU fired a minigun in real life? And arguing that Balance > Real Life is a joke being as both of those weapons are perfectly fine just the way they are - to be honest your post is just so freaking mind boggling I'm not sure if you're wanting to nerf the HMG or were just flaunting your E-Peen in the wrong light trying to accuse me of wanting to nerf it; I honestly have no **ing clue Fact is, the Shotgun is a SPECIALIST weapon and if you put skills into it IT'S GOING TO BE DEADLY JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS GAME You got shot because you're stupid and somehow it's over-powered? No. Here's why: THE MAPS ARE FREAKING HUGE!!!! If you somehow got shot by a shotgun in the first place it can be NO-ONES FAULT BUT YOUR OWN! From the time you said Balance > real life is a joke i stopped reading. You do realize this is not real life right? You do realize balance is what makes / breaks a game right? You're an idiot if you think otherwise.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2013.02.18 19:25:00 - [10] - Quote Morathi III wrote: Im agree but perhaps lance only play ambush Ambush is a joke.

Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2013.02.18 19:28:00 - [11] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: From the time you said Balance > real life is a joke i stopped reading. You do realize this is not real life right? You do realize balance is what makes / breaks a game right? You're an idiot if you think otherwise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e31OSVZF77w EDJUMACATE YOURSELF How about you tell me and not link a video, because I can also link someone else's video and do this all day. Fact is it's a videogame, and if balance wasn't in, then it will only take 1 bullet to kill people in every FPS.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2013.02.18 19:30:00 - [12] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Morathi III wrote: Personnaly lance we will see what is OP when the proto come, its tough to said now the game is curently too easy but right now that take 3 chest shot to kill an assault well equiped i think is fine if i shot deeper its because i have sharpshooter prof 2 people's problem is that they judge weapons from lolPublic games. How many people judge a weapon's performance against another corp? Everyone judges stuff from playing against noobs. If people did judge in a corp game, then I guarantee you nobody would be crying over HMGs and all the QQ threads would be cut in half. Who uses shotguns in corp battles? lol, it's all ARs and tanks. The fact that you said that shows you haven't played many corp matches against good teams / players.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2013.02.18 19:33:00 - [13] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Morathi III wrote: Personnaly lance we will see what is OP when the proto come, its tough to said now the game is curently too easy but right now that take 3 chest shot to kill an assault well equiped i think is fine if i shot deeper its because i have sharpshooter prof 2 people's problem is that they judge weapons from lolPublic games. How many people judge a weapon's performance against another corp? Everyone judges stuff from playing against noobs. If people did judge in a corp game, then I guarantee you nobody would be crying over HMGs and all the QQ threads would be cut in half. Who uses shotguns in corp battles? lol, it's all ARs and tanks. The fact that you said that shows you haven't played many corp matches against good teams / players. Names bro, give me names of people who use shotguns in corp battles. I'll wait. Calamity Jane, Annie Oakley... That's all the names that really matter. Edit: Not to mention anyone trying to get to an objective quickly uses a scout / assault w.speedmods shotgun set up. So yeah.

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